📈 The new social web has reached its next milestone: For the first time, the has over 4,000,000 users! 📈

Today, the counter at the-federation.info/ shows 4,003,742 users in the Fediverse, out of which 2,761,886 users are on , 762,367 on , and 249,904 on . Fast growing projects are (69,954) that more than tripled and (25,206) that almost doubled the number of users in the last year.

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@VictorVenema You are right. The growth of the Fediverse does not outweigh the number of users becoming inactive/dormant. Thus, the number of active users is stagnant and even decreases:

Change of "active 6 months" in the last year:
: 1.36Mio -> 1.21Mio
: 1.25Mio -> 1.09Mio
: 87250 -> 69018
: 9647 -> 12563

In other words, the needs to substantially grow faster in order to also grow in terms of actually active users.

@gerald_leppert We created our own community at FediScience, there were many accounts created, but only few of them are actually used. So it may be that many are inactive from the start.

We should somehow study why these people left, never got started, that may be more important for growth than attracting new people.

@VictorVenema @gerald_leppert

I suspect there's a similar number of abandoned users on corporate services, except admins don't really care about them as long as the ad revenue comes in.

consider also the effect of a global pandemic and quite scary political situations in many countries; a lot of people are simply overwhelmed by that and may be avoiding social media as a whole, particularly networks that have a lot of news and politics posts...

@vfrmedia At least on my server 80 to90% is inactive or hardly active. That is a lot. Could well be similar in the silos, but it is still something to care about.

There are some services that send you an email if you have been inactive for a long time. That may be way to reactivate people.

There are also people trading in accounts that look old to sell to people wanting to look like trend setters. Like @a@FediScience. If that is the reason they may claim the account later.
@gerald_leppert

@VictorVenema

I remember discussion about a "reminder" email for inactive users, not sure if the feature was added.

Your instance looks good, but is also quite specialist and comes across as aimed at uni science students and profs, who might be both quite shaken up by the effects of Covid on their studies, to the point where trying out new social media isn't a priority (they might be actively trying to avoid further distraction as more and more of uni goes online)

@gerald_leppert

@vfrmedia @gerald_leppert Such a reminder would be worth a try given the large fraction of inactive users. These are people who are at least somewhat interested. You could make it a setting so that people can opt out.

I was not worrying about my own instance, but would like to see the fediverse grow at the expense of the silos. I think that would be good for society.

That being said, there are 10s of thousands of scientists on Twitter. The audience for FediScience is theoretically there.

@VictorVenema @vfrmedia @gerald_leppert I think poor discoverability of content within Mastodon is a blocker. This is only true for Mastodon from what I hear - because it was intended as a feature.

@ashwinvis @VictorVenema @vfrmedia

Indeed, for new users, there should be some more intro that only hashtag searches and searches for user names exists. Also, it might be confusing for users on small instances that they search results depends on the federated users/instances of his/her instance. Thus, on small instances, first, you discover little on your specific topic.

New users also usually don't know fediverse search engines like: search.social/

@gerald_leppert @ashwinvis @VictorVenema

TBH the users who pick smaller instances tend to have started on the larger ones and are aware of the search limitations.

Bear in mind that young adults particularly outside "tolerant" Northern Europe (particularly in USA) who happen to be LGBT+ or in ethnic minorities no longer feel as safe and secure online; they often don't *want* to be discovered that easily on their social network..

@gerald_leppert @ashwinvis @VictorVenema

also a lot of smaller instances opt out of the data gathering exercises as in the early days there were people using altered versions of AP software to scrape data and index "prominent/influencer" users in the hope of somehow making money through online marketing to these users (I ended up on one of these lists myself and to this day get follows from the most random sources, particularly from sex workers halfway across the World..)

@vfrmedia
Sure. But searching with just one hashtag is silly. I can't search for #rock #metal #nowplaying together for instance.

The only option is adding a column in the advanced interface, but this is an obscure and cumbersome feature.
@gerald_leppert @VictorVenema

@ashwinvis @gerald_leppert @VictorVenema

searching with more than one term works inconsistently (maybe the same code?) and whether search is enabled at all depends on the instance admins choice (to be fair most admins will tell you exactly what and isn't implemented)

When I first started using Mastodon I just looked on the federated timeline for interesting stuff (you had to be quick off the mark or it ran away, I think newer versions limit the rate toots appear to make this easier..)

@gerald_leppert @ashwinvis @VictorVenema @vfrmedia Do you know of any other working fediverse search engines?

Would be great to have

@ohellno @vfrmedia @ashwinvis @gerald_leppert There is fedisearch.com

Have not used it myself. So no idea how good it is.

Please only use it for good. Mastodon does not have detailed search on purpose.

@VictorVenema @vfrmedia @ashwinvis @gerald_leppert Thank you!

Just trying to find some people to follow from other instances so I can break away from corporate search engines

@VictorVenema @ohellno @vfrmedia @ashwinvis
FediSearch also seems to be out of order: I get "We're sorry, but something went wrong."

@gerald_leppert @VictorVenema things like #nextcloud also have fediverse accounts which can be very inactive...

@mk @VictorVenema

Thanks. This is a bit strange.
The user numbers for the instances themselves are the same like to the-federation.info. Here the three biggest instances:

pawoo.net 636792
mastodon.social 531133
mstdn.jp 201961
all others are much smaller. Thus, 287 mio users actually cannot be correct.

Did you count the users or the statuses?

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